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Ahhh! Duuuu ! My mistake. Yeah you mean keeping the thing from turning. Well when I installed it with an electric impact wrench, I temporarly installed the pull and had someone hold it. When I installed it manualy, I did probably something that may have been bad or not so bad. I installed a rod and piston wrist pin on on journal, placed a solid rod shape thing into the wrist pin, two blocks of oak wood under this so it would not go into the engine as it turned, turn it manually as the rod/pin/wood holds the crank. Works everytime. LEON MARTINEZ SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/