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<x-charset iso-8859-1>the first three words of your reply was why i said to get a 4 speed car "in good condition" personally i would rather drive a 4 speed than a 6 speed or less speed automatic....it feels like taking off in 2nd. gear due to automatic gear ratios compared to 4 speed manual.......besides maintenance/replacement is less hassle....... Bill May San Diego, California vwbill@san.rr.com > In good condition I also like auto trannys ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>