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>I'm guessing here, but try looking at the drum for cracks >How are the splines on the axle / brake drum hub connection? I did look for cracks in the drum, and cleaned with brake fluid to inspect. This might explain why the e-brake thump is louder than pedal (more localized force than all 4 wheels stopping). I will pull the wheel and watch the hub while Ginger pumps the brakes. The hub is still appears tight (cotter pin still there), and no movement when leveraging with the wheel on. This is a two piece setup, and hub and splines were in excellent condition prior to Parma. This is really odd, I thought for sure I'd see something obvious in there. Peter Parker '66 Square; Phillip Portland, OR ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/