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Thats all we have... when I say twisty and winding, I am meaning the stuff you drive a VW at about 20mph on :-) The fogs are good visiblilty until you get to about 25mph - after that you are driving "further ahead" of the light. Allan :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Ayres" <comwest@att.net> To: <type3@vwtype3.org> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:22 AM Subject: Re: [T3] Too many rear-enders AlanW=> I do use the front fogs on twisty country roads to light up the sides. And that's about all we have around here. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 KG1600 ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/