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FWIW: we are currently running over 15:1 CR on pump gas on some of our test engines, and we are finally seeing signs of a CR limit, I suspect it will be in the 16-17:1 range. I'll just say we are NOT running the Semi Hemi chamber, and we are trying to further the Flat 4 as much as possible, and it's looking like the next breakthrough in VW performance is upon us. :-) John Aircooled.Net Inc. ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/