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keith, the notch has that motor already... the only diffence is that the holes in the heads will be bigger and the valve lift will be greater! martin, the lift, at the valve is .492" with the 1.25 rockers, exactly what i wanted! the 120 cam is a great in town cam! the 120 without the rockers and the current head set up is phenominal from 1800rpm up to the 6k self imposed limit! ask PerL if there was any power... the cam is pretty gentle on the valve train components too. all hp models have the current hp at about 154hp with about 147 lb/ft torque peak. with the changes, the hp will be about 173 and 167lb/ft torque... very respectalbe, i think, in a street/highway driven car. Brian Fye South Umpqua High School Athletic Secretary ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/