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Hi Wade, That sounds exactly like the rain that has been soaking my '68 squareback in nearby Laurel MD. I think the clouds are conspiring against us. How are the seals on your pop out windows? I ask because I get water buildup in the exact locations you described, and my pop-out window seals look terrible - especially on the drivers side, which must have been in the sun during it's 20 year storage. at any rate, i can see daylight between the body and the seal on the glass. Maybe this is your trouble too? PS. If anyone knows where to get type III window seals WITH the groove for the chrome trim, please help. -Todd ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/