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Travis=> what is the purpose of the smaller pipes => running above the valve covers off of the "U" pipes? They carry cold air to the mixer boxes, those thermos you noticed. These regulate the temperature of the air entering the cabin so you don't melt your tennies. _________________________________________________ So was this a Type-3 only improvement. I don't remember seeing anything like that on Beetles or my Ghia. Why would the car need to try to override your request for warm air? Thanks for the help, just posing more curiosity questions than anything else. I'll put them on since they belong there just as soon as I get the flex pipes. Travis '66 Fastback www.keedyweb.net/fastback ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/