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=> I was just curious how many (if any) people on the => list only got into welding and/or auto restoration in => general AFTER they got their VWs, specifically so they => could do restoration work on their cars? Like a lot of people, I started with the Muir book and the determination that I had to get control of this aspect of my life. I'd found I was enslaved to an extent by my lack of knowledge about the American V8 I was driving (and which I eventually murdered by neglect). I saw the book, bought myself a clapped-out '66 Type 2 panel, and learned from my mistakes. Empowerment with maintenance led to enough confidence to try a rebuild, which failed miserably, but I kept at it and eventually succeeded. The bus needed a lot of work, of course, and I learned to do this and that. Eventually I moved into Type 3s with my first 34, then my Square. After returning from a bunch of years in Japan, I got back to old cars and picked up the Ghia. That needed a complete makeover, and I found the necessary help to support me in taking it on. I've always been a tool-user, so picking up new skills is normal to me. I think that relative comfort with tools is a prerequisite for getting started with cars, and that seems to be getting a bit scarce these days. So one of the best things we can do to keep the hobby alive is to share it with the tool-ignorant or -impaired and help them build confidence. Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/