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Steve, if you can find a piece of band strap material, you could cut a slot about 10 mm wide and about 20mm deep in it. I use a normal window tool for GMs to remove them from my 65, it is a little tight but it does work. Hope this helps you out. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Squareback-AT ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/