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thank you guys so much for helping me out. i figured out what the problem was. i rechecked all the valves to try and catch a mistake i may have made and they all checked out fine. i was baffled so i just sat there and looked at the engine for a long time and it dawned on me. the plug wires were all screwed up on the distributor cap. so i arranged them correctly and vrooooooom.... it idles a heck of a lot better than it did before too. im going to go clean my hands now because they are greasy. thanks again for baring with me, im learning. jdadbrez __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org