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<x-charset iso-8859-1> ok, im confused. i adjusted the valves on cylinders 1 > and 2 fine, but the valve springs on exaust valves 3 > and 4 extend passed the tip of the rocker arm(just > barely) making it impossible to use the feeler gauge > to check clearance. assuming that you have followed the procedure properly (clockwise to #1 TDC, then COUNTER-clockwise to #2, COUNTER-clockwise to #3, and then COUNTER-clockwise to #4), you may need to shim the rocker arm shaft. First, confirm that your head is still torqued down properly. Some of the T3s came from the factory with head shims that fit between the head and the cylinder. This would have provided more clearance for the valves, too. Its possible that during a rebuild, somebody forgot to put them back in BOTH heads (as in my case this summer from the PO) Something else to check is the length of the pushrods. It's possible to buy shorter pushrods, although I don't particularly recommend it. If the valves for #3 and #4 were previously not properly set (i.e. there wasn't enough clearance) it can do some severe damage to your camshaft and you might not even notice it. I wouldn't worry about the oil differences spilling out. That can just happen by pulling into the driveway at a certain angle (and the excess oil travels back down the pushrod tubes into the case). Whatever you do, don't just try to put a bandaid on. When I discovered the EXACT same condition on my T3, for safe keeping I pulled my engine. I was glad that I did because the cam was shot due to faulty valve clearance and mismatching cam/lifters. (not to mention the missing head shim) Good luck! Jason 68 Notch (Nadine) 68 Notch (Nadine) I proudly buy my vw parts and service from... The Bug Stop in Arlington, TX www.texasbugstop.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>