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<x-flowed> Something comes to mind... maybe from a Beetle or Type III Bentley. I seem to recall a picture where a piece of string or twine was looped behind the knob, kind of like making a cat's cradle, and then the little web of string was pulled forward to bring the knob off. (Hope that makes sense.) -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-flowed>