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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Well, the first (and possibly main problem) is that they aren't allen bolts (allen bolts being a hex or six-sided shape) - they are 12 point. And they are probably rounded out from using an allen wrench to remove them. Using the correct tool and cleaning the gunk out (brake cleaner works great) before trying to remove them works great. -Justin Earl '69 Square '00 New Beetle '79 Corvette '78 El Camino '51 Chevy 3800 <<ranting>> OK, all you who know a thing or 2 about engineering - What is the advantage of an allen bolt over a regular hex-head bolt? I can see a case for using them in flush-mount applications (like a tranny drain plug or trailing-arm mount), but when the bolt head stands proud of the surrounding surface anyhow, why in God's name would an engineer/designer decide to use an allen bolt? Thing is, I can't get my CV's undone, because 4 out of 6 bolts on each side are completely stripped out - the holes are nearly perfectly round. Now, I realize this condition is the result of sloppy tool use in the past - but that's just a symptom. The root problem is, there's these whimsical recessed-drive fasteners that don't really need to be there. This is the kind of thing that could challenge my faith in German engineering. Someone enlighten me! Assure me that the designers of this system were operating on some sound mechanical axiom, other than "hey - look! If we do it this way, it'll REALLY vex some kid 30 years in the future!" Thank you for your time. --timmy '72 square '69 square (with irreplaceable CV joints) Jax, FL ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>