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Thanks Mark.. Haven't got under, although I will replace all hoses as a measure anyway, rather not have brake issues. There is, at this point, EVERYTHING to check, as MC res. is nearly empty, pedal drops to floor, and brakes are useless. I do believe the shoes are hung in the rear due to aggressive ebrake use after sitting SO long. This car will need everything in the brake system cleaned up, replaced, or repaired. I do hope to get a hone and kits and save the cyls as much as possible. I did just find a girling MC, would this not be correct? I recall checking the overflow, and it was in fair shape, superfically, but I will take heed to examine it further. Lots to do if that engine does in fact, run.. Al ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/