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Re: [T3] Idle mixture adjustment


<x-charset iso-8859-1>I had both of my throttle shaft bushings replaced at RIMCO in California for
$30 each plus shipping.

Jason
68 Notch (Nadine)

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Seaton" <mark.seaton2@ntlworld.com>
To: "Type 3 Mailing List" <type3@vwtype3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [T3] Idle mixture adjustment


> Jason wrote:
> >Your problem is likely a vacuum leak.  When you rebuilt the carbs, did
you
> >lightly plane the top and bottom halves on a flat surface with 220 or 400
> >grit wet/dry sandpaper?  This will let you know if you have any "high" or
> >"low" spots, which indicates that your carbs may be warped from engine
> heat.
>
> >Yes, you might also look for slack in the throttle shaft bushings.  ANY
> >slack is too much.
>
> I sanded down the bottom of the main carb body where it joins the throttle
> plate- it was very bowed but I think from overtightening of the mounting
> nuts rather than heat. The Throttle bodies themselves looked fine. I did
> notice a fair amount of slack in the throttle shafts which was worrying. I
> reckon that this is the most likely source of an air leak but I've found a
> great company here in UK who will rebush the throttle shaft with PTFE
lined
> bushes, line reamed to fit the shaft snuggly for just 15GBP per carb. This
> sounds very reasonable to me and would probably last a lot longer than the
> original steel on alloy bearing. They charge 159GBP for a complete refurb
of
> both carbs, way more than I want to pay, and anyway the rest of the carbs
> looked fine. They specialise in restoring vintage carbs to concourse cond.
> and had listed T3 PDSITs  NOS for 50GBP each- they don't have any left ;-(
> I have to check if they can supply me some new idle mixture screws- I read
> someone say that these should come to a sharp point- mine don't. The RHS
one
> is more truncated than the LHS, but I checked the tip under a microscope
and
> it didn't look broken. It came to a turned looking flat end about .5mm
dia.
> which appeared to be plated the same as the rest of the screw. How sharp a
> point did these really come to?
>
> Dave Hall wrote:
>
> >Can you check the CO level?
> > I find about 3% CO works OK on my Twin Carb.  Could be yours is fine and
> > there's air getting in - at tick-over speed there is quite a big suction
> in
> > the manifold to screw up the mixture.
> > 20 mp(imp)g seems a bit low,
> > but maybe not far off for slow cold short journeys.
> > Timing and valves are also important - are these OK on yours, Mark?
>
> I've checked and re-checked the valves and timing- they seem fine. The
weird
> thing is that when I first got the car, the valves had next to zero
> clearance and the ignition was way too advanced-like 30 deg at idle! Yet
I'm
> pretty sure that it ran at least as well as it doesn't now! If I increase
> the advance it does seem to pick up. I'm contemplating removing the pulley
> wheel to check that has its woodruff key- maybe I'm really retarded after
> all 8--o
> I haven't had the CO level checked yet- when I'm happy that everything in
my
> control is as it should be, I guess I should- I'm sure it would tell me a
> lot. I am still getting misfiring for a while at start up but that
lessened
> when I enriched the mixture 1/4 turn and changed one of the leads for a
fat
> silicon one. I think I need new HT leads and am in the process of (trying)
> to get some really nice Beru leads and connectors. With that sorted,
rebuilt
> throttle bodies, and Jim's uni-syn to get the balance right, I'm really
> hopeful that things will tune up nicely.
>
> So what do others get with "healthy" stock (carbed or FI) engines in town
> driving- would be interesting to get an average.
>
> SIR.LANCE wrote:
>
> >that or they dont have the idle set proporly and are useing the mixture
> >screws as idle?
> >so to get a good running motor u run more fuel than air? kinda like a
> cholk?
> >rather than letting more air in via the butterfly valves?
>
> I don't think this would work as if you keep riching it up, the engine
idle
> slows and runs uneven again- it needs air as well, Its not running THAT
bad-
> your engine doesn't run as well cold with choke as it does when its warmed
> up- it just shouldn't stall all the time.
>
> Thanks all for all the input- Bryan if I discover the secret I'll let you
> know
>
> Mark Seaton
> Orange '73 1600TA London
>
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