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<x-flowed> that or they dont have the idle set proporly and are useing the mixture screws as idle? so to get a good running motor u run more fuel than air? kinda like a cholk? rather than letting more air in via the butterfly valves? i donno if im making any sence here, i have a hard time puting into words what i think in my head SIR.LANCE _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe </x-flowed>