Re: [T3] Nadine was born RHD with Sunroof

[Per Lindgren <lindgre@online.no>]

I've failed to see the logic in VAG's type numbers. I am about to replace my
daily driver Audi with an older Audi (I need something cheaper), but to get to
my point. The Audi I am thinking about getting could either be a type 81 or type
85, even though there is no difference! Two identical cars but with different
type numbers. Where's the logic in that?

PerL
73 Variant L

PS: For those who wonder what kinda Audi, it's the 85-86 4000 quattro.


Allyn de Vars wrote:

> Until I read Per's notation of the flat windshield Stupid Beetle having a
> type 11 designation, the model types made perfectly good sense.
>
> The fastback and the notchback share the same exact floorpan part number
> because the bulkhead on a fastback and notchback are the same, constituting
> the model 31.  The type 34 has it's own part number because the bulkhead
> (the piece which goes side to side under the leading edge of the rear seat)
> is different for the smaller (useless) rear seat of the type 34.  The
> squareback is different because the bulkhead on it has hinges for the
> seatbottom to fold forward, making it the type 36.
>
> So much for logic, it's friday, have a beer instead.
> Allyn de Vars
> 1962 and 1963 VW 1500 Karmann Ghias
> 1967 VW 1600 Squareback
> 2001 VW Golf GL TDI
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org]
> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:31 AM
> To: type3@vwtype3.org
> Subject: Re: [T3] Nadine was born RHD with Sunroof
>
> On 10 Jan 2002, at 19:18, Steven Ayres wrote:
>
> > => 1 for notches and fastys, 4 for Ghias, 6 for
> > => squares.
> >
> > I've occasionally wondered what might have become of the other body
> > designations -- 2, 3 and 5. From 1 and 4 I draw parallels with the Typ 1
> > line. Have Type 12 or 13 ever appeared in production or concepts? The
> > numbers must have been used for something.
>
> I've always viewed it as a botched or flawed basic concept. I would have
> done
> something like this:
>
> Divide the car into pan and body, then there are just 2 pans:
>
> 31 LHD type 3
> 32 RHD type 3
>
> Then if you wanted to, you could have made the IRS cars
>
> 33 LHD IRS type 3
> 34 RHD IRS type 3
>
> Note that this scheme uses the same odd/even division that the parts list
> uses for LHD/RHD parts.
>
> Then all we need to do is add another digit representing the kind of body
> that
> gets dropped on this pan:
>
> 1 notch
> 2 notch w/sunroof
> 3 Ghia
> 4 Ghia w/sunroof
> 5 square
> 6 square w/sunroof
> 7 fasty
> 8 fasty w/sunroof
>
> Add a final digit for the model year and you have a 4 digit VIN prefix which
> can also be your model #. Or just take the first three digits as the model
> #,
> whichever way you like, but either way it is more clear and gets rid of the
> notch/fasty ambiguity.
>
> Had it been done this way, the 68 LHD notch would have been a 3118..., or
> just a model 311.
>
> -
> Jim Adney
> jadney@vwtype3.org
> Madison, WI 53711-3054
> USA
>
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