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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Until I read Per's notation of the flat windshield Stupid Beetle having a type 11 designation, the model types made perfectly good sense. The fastback and the notchback share the same exact floorpan part number because the bulkhead on a fastback and notchback are the same, constituting the model 31. The type 34 has it's own part number because the bulkhead (the piece which goes side to side under the leading edge of the rear seat) is different for the smaller (useless) rear seat of the type 34. The squareback is different because the bulkhead on it has hinges for the seatbottom to fold forward, making it the type 36. So much for logic, it's friday, have a beer instead. Allyn de Vars 1962 and 1963 VW 1500 Karmann Ghias 1967 VW 1600 Squareback 2001 VW Golf GL TDI -----Original Message----- From: Jim Adney [mailto:jadney@vwtype3.org] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:31 AM To: type3@vwtype3.org Subject: Re: [T3] Nadine was born RHD with Sunroof On 10 Jan 2002, at 19:18, Steven Ayres wrote: > => 1 for notches and fastys, 4 for Ghias, 6 for > => squares. > > I've occasionally wondered what might have become of the other body > designations -- 2, 3 and 5. From 1 and 4 I draw parallels with the Typ 1 > line. Have Type 12 or 13 ever appeared in production or concepts? The > numbers must have been used for something. I've always viewed it as a botched or flawed basic concept. I would have done something like this: Divide the car into pan and body, then there are just 2 pans: 31 LHD type 3 32 RHD type 3 Then if you wanted to, you could have made the IRS cars 33 LHD IRS type 3 34 RHD IRS type 3 Note that this scheme uses the same odd/even division that the parts list uses for LHD/RHD parts. Then all we need to do is add another digit representing the kind of body that gets dropped on this pan: 1 notch 2 notch w/sunroof 3 Ghia 4 Ghia w/sunroof 5 square 6 square w/sunroof 7 fasty 8 fasty w/sunroof Add a final digit for the model year and you have a 4 digit VIN prefix which can also be your model #. Or just take the first three digits as the model #, whichever way you like, but either way it is more clear and gets rid of the notch/fasty ambiguity. Had it been done this way, the 68 LHD notch would have been a 3118..., or just a model 311. - Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe </x-charset>