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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> i used j-tubes on my 1835cc, and my 1600cc, and have NEVER had a problem, i > dont even use the under tins (i use super cool tins) > > i never over heat, or cook my head Well you certainly can't do that here in Texas! Maybe with different climates, you can get away with them. Here is like frying eggs. Jason 68 Notch (Nadine) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe </x-charset>