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<x-flowed> i used j-tubes on my 1835cc, and my 1600cc, and have NEVER had a problem, i dont even use the under tins (i use super cool tins) i never over heat, or cook my head my 2 cents on j-pipes SIR.LANCE _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-flowed>