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<x-charset iso-8859-1>I cut through a sill (rocker) mid-door, and it's outer sill, web, heater tube (2 walls), inner sill, which makes 5 layers. The seam under the door sill trim strip has three thicknesses altogether. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>