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<x-charset iso-8859-1>> I saw a 1960 BMW 700 coupe. It has a flat 4 air cooled engine with Type > 3 style cooling. I saw one of these at the Bristol Classic Car Show in the UK some years ago. There's a micro-car museum somewhere south of Wolfsburg, but I've not visited it yet. Something to put on the to do list. I don't think the timing could make it the father of the Type 3 though! Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe </x-charset>