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You might try a marine dealer, as these fans are actually bilge pump fans. Most are priced about 29.95 each or less, but then you have to figure out how your going to change the speed of the fans ( thats what costs so much in those kits). Also they are noisy, I know because I had a set in my old bug that I used here in Michigan winters. It would clear the windsheild of frost/fog about the same time the engine came off choke, and would try to bake you out of the car. It worked very well in wet weather too as thats when you needed it the most when driving in the city (low revs). I hope this helps. Bob 65 Notch S w/ Sunroof 69 Squareback-AT -the baby suburban ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/