Re: [T3] Stock Oil Cooler VS Remote

[DGaries808@aol.com]

In a message dated 8/18/02 4:35:08 AM Central Daylight Time, 
allanw@ihug.co.nz writes:

<< Subj:     Re: [T3] Stock Oil Cooler VS Remote
 Date:  8/18/02 4:35:08 AM Central Daylight Time
 From:  allanw@ihug.co.nz (Allan Williams)
 Sender:    type3@vwtype3.org
 Reply-to:  type3@vwtype3.org
 To:    type3@vwtype3.org
 
 The oil cooler on the *1972* and later 1600 twinport type 1, with the
 doghouse cooler used a cooler very similar to (if not the same as) the type
 3 cooler. It is an all alloy cooler. The earlier engines (and I believe all
 later engines that were not 1600 twinports, such as the 1200 which kept on
 going in production) all used a black oil cooler which was steel (maybe
 brass/copper???) and did not look in the slightest like a conventional
 radiator - the Type 3 cooler did, with zig-zag fins between the "cores".
 
 I'm quite sure that the type 3 cooler was slighlty larger than the type 1,
 as it was a popular "upgrade", but I may be mistaken - the type 4 cooler was
 also a finned aluminium type - it *was* an ungrade, as places like bugpack
 made adaptors for it :-)
 
 Allan W  :-)
 New Zealand
 58 Beetle
 70 "Fonzie"
 70 Squareback
 
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: <DGaries808@aol.com>
 To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
 Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:27 PM
 Subject: [T3] Stock Oil Cooler VS Remote
 
 
    In a message dated 8/16/02 8:58:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
 comwest@att.net
  writes:
 
 
  What I saw was a Type 3 oil cooler used to make a Type 1 arrangement. Oil
  coolers
  were identical. The only difference was the Type 1 fittings from a Type 1
 was
  used. In particular, a 1965 Type 34 engine was built for and installed in a
  1969 Beetle.
 
  Just for kicks, I went over to Scott's house and looked at his Type 3-Type
 1
  engine.
  Obviously, the 25 and 36 hp engines don't count, because they came at
 earlier
  times. I'm talking about the 1965 and later beetle engines, as well as
 1962+
  Type 3
   engines. The oil coolers were identical on either engine. THE PLATES THAT
  HOLD THEM are different.The Type 1 engine mounts the oil cooler vertically,
  and the Type 3 mounts the oil cooler horizontally. But the oil coolers
  themselves are identical whether Type 1 or Type 3.
 
  Equate 1500 to 1500 and 1600 to 1600. There was a small cap to add to the
  engine, and it is to plug a hole in the Type 3 case. It is called a "oil
  filler cap", and is about 2 inches by 1.5 inches, give or take a tad. The
  idea came from Mexican engines, which were the same for Type 1 or Type 3.
 
  Scott used a 1965 Type 34 engine to fit into his 1969 Beetle so as to save
  some money. He had the case drilled so as to accept a standard Type 1 oil
  filler and dipstick (cost $20). Then he added his 1969 beetle carburetor,
  generator, and generator stand to the Type 3 engine (plus, I suppose, his
  Type 1 engine tin)  Voila!
  he has a perfectly good Type 1 engine for a bug. Scott did this because I
  gave him the 1965 Type 34 engine (which is, of course, Type 3).
 
  His total; investment was $20 plus about $10 for the filler cap plus his
 time.
 
  I also went over and talked to Angel at Knight's Foreign Auto Parts. Angel
  told me that they kept a good supply of the "oil filler caps" for just such
  purposes. So, it can be done and has been done beaceaup times; i.e., making
 a
  Type 1 engine out of a Type 3 engine.
 
   Don Garies
   dgaries808@aol.com
 
 
I forgot to exclude 40 Hp engines, which were from an earlier era also. So, 
exclude 
25, 36 and 40 Hp engines, and what I had to say applies to 1500 and 1600 
engines
only. The oil coolers are identical. One can place an oil filler cap on a 
Type 3 engine,
cut the case for a conventional dipstick (or a part is made to bolt onto the 
Type 3 engine so as to not have to cut the case), replace the Type 3 
generator, generator stand, and engine tin, and you have a conventional Type 
1 engine. It's easy, if you have a Type 1 and a Type 3 engine to start with, 
and you are just gonna combine them - maybe the pistons and cylinders are bad 
in the Type 1 engine and good in the Type 3 engine.

Don Garies
dgaries808@aol.com.
  
 

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