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Use rubberized undercoating ... You can even get the stuff that has ashfault<spelling?> in it... Get the stuff in a gallon can that you hafta spread on with a putty knife... You can layer that stuff up about 1/4 thick.. It will help dampen noise and only cost about $20 a gallon!! ------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <type3-off@vwtype3.org> For more help, see http://vwtype3.org/list/