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Carrie asked..."Does this mean I have to remove all paint from the pan, or will the metal ready take care of that?" Metal ready won't remove the paint. The Marine clean stuff will if mixed strongly enough. POR15 directions dictate that you can paint over existing paint, but you won't get the benefits of the POR15. Check out the POR15 website at www.por15.com. They've got a FAQ section that will answer most questions. OK, Keith, I guess "AMAZING" is a strong word. Let's just say I'm very impressed so far. Jim Bowen Round Rock, TX ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/