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Robbie Hattaway wrote: "Por-15 will not adhere to metal unless it has a coat of rust to bond to." This is so incorrect. POR15 directions state that rusted or sandblasted metal is best (surfaces with "tooth") to paint w/POR15. Smooth metal should be treated with "Metal Ready" before paining with POR15. Metal Ready is an etching solution w/zinc phosphate. BTW, I'm using POR15 products with my restoration efforts. The stuff is AMAZING. It self levels when brushed on and dries hard as rock. I was attempting to install the pedal assembly in my Square, when I dropped my ratchet wrench onto my newly POR15'd floorpan (which was stripped to bare metal and treated with metal ready). I thought "damn, there's the first chip." NOT. I couldn't find a scratch, let alone a chip. The stuff is incredible. No, I don't work for the company. :) Hope this dispels any myths. Jim Bowen Round Rock, TX '72 Square '74 SB Sun Bug '88 Vanagon Wolfsburg ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org