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Hey Marc, I bought a set of these from Rocky Mountain and i know what you mean about the backorder thing. I think i waited a month and a half. I did finally get them and they were made in sweden and of good quality. I could not find them anywhere else. But i did not try Bill and Steves. Anyone else know of a source? later, jesse Marc Wrote: I shouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to come in. How about reasonably close fitting substitutes? Anyone? I'll even take good used ones... (laughs generously) ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe