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Re: [T3] Low power until the engine warms up


<x-charset iso-8859-1>Jim,

I had this problem caused by several things:

- bad or disconnected throttle switch (enrichment circuit off )

- wrong version of manifold pressure sensor (way too lean)

- bad spraying injectors (way too lean)

- timing not advancing (rusted stuck, very gutless when cold and uphills
when warm ), Check your 
  timing !

My main cold problem was that the engine was running way too lean when cold.
Every engine must run rich when cold , that is why carbed engines require a
good 
working choke in order to suck in more gas, injected engines receive a 'more
fuel '
signal from the temp sensors during the cold and accel movement from the
throttle
switch.  Enrichment can come from the pressure sensor if your EFI version
has 
the accel enrichment in the pressure sensor. The pressure sensor is
essential
for fuel mixture, if it is faulty or the wrong one you may end up with a
lean condition 
or a rich condition.

When the engine warms up or heats up , fuel demand goes down and the engine
can 
be leaned out and still work very well but if the same amount of fuel is
applied to 
the same engine when cold, it may not start and if it does , it will run
somewhat ugly
and weak. The temp sensors regulate the amount of fuel going in, depending
on 
engine head  and air temps.

All of these causes listed, caused my problems but the main one I found to
cause the most 
grief, were my injectors, they stayed lean when engine cold and also when
warm. Ran
like crap when cold, very slow car, top speed 25-30 mph. When engine was
warm , top 
speed was 50 mph , at this blazing speed the engine felt like it was pushing
and pulling.

I found that the injectors were clogged/worn , the junkyard ones I bought
did not give 
the best expected results (I thought it was fixed but was not sure beacause
only experience was
with big V8's ). I ordered injectors from a rebuilder (PYTHON) and decided
to test these using 
my injection system and the trottle pump, found that volume of fuel per same
number of
injections was very different between rebuilt injectors as much as 50
percent and a couple cut out 
at an equivalent of 2800 rpm., I returned
these several times before getting others from another rebuilder (BRET) and
new from
Bosh , these last two vendors injected more and evenly, all the way across.

Good injectors changed the way my engine worked so sooo much , good power
and top speed of 100 mph and a cold engine now is more peppier than when
warm, 
engine temps are down and fuel economy  is better because of less full open
throttles.
Injectors seem to last 30 years before the inside is worn and scuffed by
years of 
contamination.

Old injectors can be cleaned by some injector shops but I was told mine were

beyond cleaning and they seized or fuel cutout at higher on/off injection
rates.

Check your spray pattern from each injector pair (diagonally from each other
at 
different engine positions, ignition disconnected and injectors spraying in
a 
bottle or can) . You should see a conical pattern, no peeing streams or 
mishapen cone patterns. If you have a throttle pump feature on your throttle
switch,
you can spray the injectors with a pumping action at the throttle, you will
hear a clicking sound. You can also pump vigorously to check if your
injectors
are cutting out , more vigorously they inject , the more bad injectors quit
spraying.
Study your particular system , ask us questions.

I hope you find your problem.




LEON MARTINEZ
1969 SQUAREBACK EFI/AUTO
1967 FASTBACK PROJECT.

SAN DIEGO AND TIJUANA
 
.




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