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<x-charset iso-8859-1>Yes, I've learned this the expensive, er, hard way ;) Well John, I'm glad you have the cajones to turn away products that are wrong for the air-cooled engine and I applaud you for it. It would be nice if others had the same respect for the engines like you do. Right now I'm seriously thinking about buying a tubing bender and making my own set up (and I am aware of the physics behind the tubing lengths) -- like I said, I can't afford 20 units like S&S wants for a production run and I don't think there are 19 other people on this list who want a competition exhaust. I'm not worried by the rain, with my baby I'm used to it :D Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chip, Jamex suspension, 2.25" MagnaFlow exhaust Portland, Oregon, http://www.icbm.org/ >-----Original Message----- >Let me clear this up once and for all. > >NOBODY makes a merged header other than S&S for the T-3. The other companies >that do make an "exhaust", make an extractor, not a full race merged header. >A true merged header does not have heater boxes, or J-pipes... ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>