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<x-charset iso-8859-1>I fully agree, Greg. I wish all the shows were just type parking, but concours competitions does raise the standard of cars and encourage people to keep them looking good. At some car rallies they just judge cars that owners want judged, and the others are lined up by different model. I favour the club stand approach where you have a Type 3 line-up and some support info, parts etc, but it needs helpers or you end up not seeing the show yourself. Maybe USA events do this too. Dave. UK VW Type 3 & 4 Club http://www.hallvw.clara.co.uk/ ------ ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/ </x-charset>