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Re: [T3] Mofoco heads problems....


<x-charset iso-8859-1>Ive heard many red flag stories about MOFOCO... Id avoid them.


Keith

Keith Park

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----- Original Message -----
From: Martinez, Leon <martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil>
To: <type3@vwtype3.org>
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: [T3] Mofoco heads problems....


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Plk554@aol.com [mailto:Plk554@aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 9:15 PM
> To: martinezl@ftscpac.navy.mil
> Subject: Mofoco heads
>
>
> Hi Leon,
>
> I am looking at some Mofoco heads for my FI system.... I was wondering how
> yours turned out??
>
> I am building a 2 liter with the "D" FI system using the 914 Porsche 2
liter
>
> system.  It will be 90.5mm  with a 78.4mm crank, with 7.5 comp.  Just want
> more guts... and do not like the new VW heads.
>
> Thanks, Pat
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> Answering your question with my usual super long litany:
>
> I was told by the maker that these heads are
> far superior to any other brand even factory :
> better casting and machining also
> superior alloy 1973 formulation from Germany,
>  casted in a aircraft alumuminum casting patrs
>  facility  in New York. Extra fins everywhere
> on these heads.
>
>  Casting and design
> is outstanding but I had problems with
> other things that I mention below. You must
>  be on your feet and be a pain in the butt,
>  do not take whatever they give you. Get
> the best you and your car deserves for
> the money you give them.
>
> I called them after sending  my e-mail and
>  apologized and were willing to rectify
> everything at no cost to me. So I sent one
>  head back , which was the worst of the two.
> The pictures in their site are deceiving,
> they show the New brazilian heads with
> the casted and machined EFI boss and ,
> they were not aware of this .
>
> I think I will be satisfied at the end, I
>  am planning to put a temp sensor on each
> head, to minitor both sides, when I am
> zooming down the freeway at 90+ mph during
>  graveyard hours.
>
> I will let you know what the final outcome
>  is when my engine is running again.
>
> new engine specs :
> -1600 efi
> -8 to 1 compression I hope
> -total seal second rings
> -balanced forgrd crank
> -Mofoco 041 heads with 3/4 inch reach
> -one peice valves
> -SNIEDER TORQUEY BUS CAM (Mo low end power)
> -26 mm oil pump
> -2 quart sump
> -pressure booster kit (yeah I know)
> -Slip in hydraulic lifters
> -92 pass mesa cooler with fan and
>  oil filter
> -Swivel rocker adjusters
> -dual quiet pack ( will get kitco hidden ceramic ones later)
> -all seams on case sealed in epoxy (experimenting for zero oil leaks)
> -silicon pushrod tube seals ( my rubber ones got hard and craked after
> 50,000 miles (less than two years time)
> - will continue with the synthetic oil
> - 50,000 volt/high current coil
> -pertronix igniton (will add capacitive discharge later.
> -Ngk thin electrode palladium spark plugs (like in aeroplanes)
> All I need is a jusdson supercharger to blow air into the
> intake (I am just dreaming)
>
> I hope this time my cam gear does not self destruct.
> Engine was in perfect running and could have run another 50k
> or 100k according to the internal wear and oil pressure
> indicated.
>
> Read my e-mail below to Mofoco.
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> Oct 20th 2001
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> Dear Mofoco Customer service,
>
> I just wish to remind you that the 041 head your welding the EFI sensor
boss
> on is a 3/4 inch reach plug. This just in case you use another head for
this
>
> weld job. Order processed 30 Aug 2001 .
>
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> Oct 9th 2001
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> Dear Mofoco Customer service,
>
> This is not meant as a bash but constructive critisism
> so you will know my problem with the heads and
> satisfy me , I do not want money back, just good heads.
>
> My cylinder heads arrived today. I am somewhat
> unsatisfied with these. I was told that the quality
> of these heads were better than anything out there,
> especially the Brazilian, Mexican and Spanish ones.
> I assume MADE IN USA is supposed to be the best but...
> you can prove that by making this customer happier.
> I have heard other people's complaints even though
> you have not heard personally, I guess they thought
> the bought them so then they might as well use them,
> no use telling the maker...
>
> I am Leon Martinez, I have been the one calling over
> and over to check the status of my 041 heads with the
> 3/4 inch plug depth and machined EFI sensor boss. I have
> made it clear at every phone call that I wanted the
> Fuel Injection boss machined, I was told that tapping
> the boss would cost an additional 10.00 dollars, I agreed
> to have one head machined at this boss.
>
>  I was told by you over and over that this would be done.
> Originally , during the first phone call I asked alot of
> questiones about the construction and design of the head.
> Among other things, I asked if the EFI boss existed
> on your 041 heads like the 042 heads. You told me that
> you went to the shelf to verify this and in fact the boss
> was there ready to machine. The picture on your site did
> not reflect this but I was told that was an old picture
> that needed updating and that a newer one would have the
> machined boss.
>
> The heads that you gave me ???
>
> They do not even have bosses to machine, the casting is
> obviously different from the one you saw. I cannot
> use this matched pair, if the EFI boss is not there, I
> have Electronic fuel injection in my car, I made that clear.
>
> I have minor complaints about the quality of the machining
> even though the casting is outstanding (except for some
> cast flashing that partially plugged some areas, this is
> easily correctable).
>
>
> - There is machine flashing everywhere, the machining
> was not finished by deburring, Many sharp areas.
> I must finish the job with a dremmil tool.
>
> - driling of the head bolt holes are of low quality,
> kind of crooked at the begining but straigtens out.
> It is acceptable though. Hoping the bolt does not end up
> tweeked.
>
> - machining of one of the internal headbolt bosses with the
> lip (under the cover)the lip is almost machined off
> and what is left is a razor sharp crooked piece of burr
> where the lip was. This maybe acceptable as long as the washer
> is centered.
>
> - Some head bolt washer bosses are machined offset from the
> head bolt holes. This may be acceptable if the offset washer
> does not tweek the bolts.
>
> - The bale wire cover bosses are not drilled evenly, one is a
> bit forward and the other back . I do not know how strong the
> one drilled forward is since there is less metal left for the
> tension of the headcover clamp. This maybe acceptable if it is
> strong.
>
> - I do not know if this is by design but the intake holes are
> full of machine flashing and/or made smaller than other brand
> stock heads with stock valves. I can fix this with a dremmil
> tool.
>
> This is just constructive critisism, i do not wish you to feel
> bad. I took these heads to a machine shop to verify that
> the machining did not reach the quality of the Brazilian,
> Mexican and Spanish heads. I hope you can correct this for future
> customers. The machine quality of the Brazilian(and others) heads for
> example
> is of supurb quality in comparison to yours, it is straight and
> clean. What the Brazilian and others are lacking, is clearly
> the better casting you have.
>
> I am concerned because I am an American that beleives that
> American quality should kick some serious butt no matter who
> they should be especially at the place like Milwaukee, where
> machine creation is tops.
>
> I am the coordinator of a TYPE 3 club that has 40 cars/members and I
> am in ocassional contact with magazine comentators, editors,
> VW webmasters, sometimes I info other clubs wich make up hundreds of
> cars during gatherings. I have told many people that I was looking for
> heads without machine problems of the Brazilian heads (only REAL off
> angle plug holes, would not seat flat, got three heads like this),or
> heads that did not melt easily (inferior metal of AMC of Spain) or
> the difficulty of getting universal dualport heads from the VW factory
> with the VW logo casted (Mexican heads, I have just now found two easy
> sources for these ), or heads that would not overheat immediately
> (all racing heads of all brands with thicker but a lame amount of
> fins).
>
> I am the torture tester of cars for my VW club. I have driven 90 mph
> routinely for an hour each day at 5:00 am while going to work, I have
> broken balanced cranks of American brand detroit big blocks (Chev etc...)
> I always look for the best, I told everyone you may be the best and that
> I would test you next, I do not wish to tell everyone what I found but
> I wish to tell everyone that I was satified with Mofoco products
> and that my heads turned out as bullet proof, and cooled better
> as expected , slight machine problems are of no concern to me but
> are for comment. I like your casting very much  but were is the BOSS ?
>
> To satify me please contact me with a fix, all I wanted was a
> pair of the same heads with one of the EFI bosses machined,
> the ones you sent me do not even have the bosses casted in them.
> All I need is a one 041 head with the boss casted and machined
> with 3/4 inch reach sparkplug holes.
>
>

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