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Ok..I am still trying to hunt down a Square. I know you are getting sick of hearing about it. ;) I am in a quandry about this one. Sounds like it could be a good deal, but a ways to travel without much information. Here is what he has to say about non-running condition. Thoughts appreciated...I would take this to a competent mechanic, BTW. I just don't have the time with work and family to tackle a job like this.... "OK the body and interior are in good condition. Its the engine where the problem is. It will start but won't idle. It runs very rough. I think its in the valves. If you know your fuel injected VW engines it would be a good car for you but otherwise you should look at other ones." thanks... jim portland,or,usa ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org