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On 19 Nov 2001, at 12:33, Erkson, Toby wrote: > Heck, the air-cooled Type I and II's didn't have roll bars and they > were far more open than any ragtop (of which did come stock in T1 > form). The convertible Beetles DID come with a greatly beefed-up pan in the rocker area, however, to replace the stiffness which disappeared with the roof. I don't think most people appreciate how much stiffness the intact roof, with the internal stiffening ribs, really contributes. Leaving the door frame above the door intact, as I believe you've done, helps a lot, but there's still a penalty. - ******************************* Jim Adney, jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, Wisconsin, USA ******************************* ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe