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<x-charset ISO-8859-1>Hall is correct. For a part to become certified, it must pass this board. It takes some time but mostly money which is why many after-market companies DON'T have their stuff certified because they would need to pass the costs on to the consumer (of course) and that would drive up the cost of their part. However, if certified, this means the part complies with California emissions stuff and, for all practical purposes, can be considered a stock component. In my case with the chip, emissions are within legal boundaries and everybody is happy! If my understanding is close, I think this is similar to Europe's TÜV(?) Yes Jim, your statement about the engine running hotter for emission stuff is correct for the stock (unaltered) Mk.III engine (my Jetta's engine). One after-market setup is to get a thermostat and temperature fan switch that 'come on' at a slightly cooler setting to 'over-cool' the engine (keep it's temp below stock operating temp), thus getting some more hp. I don't think this is a good idea for our cars and a separate topic to debate for the curious. Toby Erkson air_cooled_nut@pobox.com '72 VW Squareback 1.6L bored and stroked to 2.0L, Berg five-speed '95 VW Jetta III GL 2.0L, P-Chipped, Jamex sport suspension Portland, Oregon, http://www.icbm.org/ >-----Original Message----- >>What is "CARB?" > >California Air Resource Board. The overlords of the California emissions >testing system. ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org </x-charset>