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You can just remove the drum . with out removing the hub! That means no axle nut either! I figured this one out after I took my mine all the way off. Eric 1968 VW Blue Fastback http://www.edinboro.edu/~e153916n/darkside_resto.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe