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Look at the plate under the hood, it has the vin number on it. It is also stamped on the pan tunnel underneath the back seat. If you look in the door jamb there is a sticker that shows the cars manufacture date. The manufacture date may not be the same as the year model of the car. If the car was made later in the year it was labeled & sold as the next years model. I went and picked up the fastback that I described previously. But the > starter broke when I got ti home.Well my question is about the > year.Haven't got the vin number yet because the dash had been replacce > with new pad w/o vin number. I also haven't crawled under to look at > the one in the back. Isn't therr another one somewhere else? I was > guesssing the year was '66 because there is no gas flap, but it is a > 12 volt factory. The only year with factory 12V and no gas cap was 67. - Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711-3054 USA ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/