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>>Anyone know if Thing drums (Rear) will fit a Type 3 backing plate (Rear)? Phillip, I am not familiar with type 181 parts, but when I got my 69 fastback, it had IRS and wide 5 rear drums. I believe the PO told me they were '65 type 3 drums. I believe the rest of the rear braking system was stock (just a change of drums), but didn't the early cars have wider rear drums or was that just an option on the early squarebacks? Anyway, I already have them sold so it does'nt really help you. But I remember seeing early wide 5 rear drums for sale in either CB Performance or VW Cal Imports catalog. I now have rear disc brakes & late model Porsche 16x7 wheels (if that stirs anyones curiosity). Brian Schlepp Yakima, WA 69 Fasty ragtop ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org