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>>I thought all the 5 bolt wheels used clips to hold the hub caps, but I'm really not clear on this.<< Andre's right. T3 wheels have always been clip-less, even the earliest ones. 61-63 wheels had an interesting feature: four vents in each wheel disc, something like the early 14 in. Type 2 wheels had. 64-65 had solid wheel discs. Scott 62 343, 65 361 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe