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The overriders I'm referring to are for the pre-70 bumpers. The later overriders don't really do it for me either. Terry Kubiak emailed me from Wolfsburg Warehouse to say that he is currently trying to strike up a deal with Flat 4 to carry their products. Apparently he should know in the next few months if it will work out. I will keep my fingers crossed. I expect that if it can be done the stuff will probably cost more because of shipping from Japan! I realize that Flat4 is a Japanese company but I couldn't imagine why on Earth they would want to limit their sales to only Japan?!? I expect that they will begin to export once again. Andre ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe