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JohnJ=> The "throw" of the shifter is also greater => on the automatic, I believe. Seems like it wouldn't be too big a deal to adapt, but I dunno. In any case I hear there's an original black weave parcel tray on Ebay right now ... Steven Ayres, Prescott AZ '66 Grosse Karmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe