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got to keep these and keep in mind there should be a nice paper gasket on both sides of this bakelite spacer or you may encounter nasty manifold leaksand loss of vaccume at the carb. i think they may help ruduce after boil in the summer also. neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/