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the exhaust i got from kymco i was happy with until i tried to install. everything was cool until i tried to install the #3 header. somehow they misdrilled the holes in the flange or the flange twisted while they were welding it to the pipe because it was impossible to line up with the exhaust studs. I mean IMPOSSIBLE it was off by a good .25 -.35 inches. so i will be calling them monday and going in asap to talk to them about getting a new header. i will bring in the other and test there system with it at there store if i have to. but i am sure this is an isolated incident but something like this has happened more than once: i ask: "will this for sure fit with no problems, i have a type 3 you understand right"? they say: "sure no worries that is what it was made for" or " of course we just pulled it off of a notch back no problem." caesar ------------------------------------------------------------------- List info at http://www.vwtype3.org/list or mailto:help@vwtype3.org