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Re: [T3] Little rubber bits



Subject: Re: [T3] Little rubber bits


> On 30 Jan 2001, at 0:39, Dave Hall wrote:
>
> > > I've seen those gaskets, too, in black plastic, but I don't think
> > > they were OE, at least on type 3s.
> >
> > It's part no. 311 857 543.  It's in the parts list Illustration A48,
though
> > the shape doesn't really do it justice.  They have a deep seating for
the
> > shoulder to seal, whereas the Beetle ones just fit around the shaft.
>
I have Pre-Delivered many US Type 3's. The mirrors, wheel rings, hub caps,
and wipers came in a box in the front trunk. The only gaskets I have ever
seen is the clear plastic one like I "still have" on my '71. They are
crumbling, but they are still there.


> Okay, the gauntlet is DOWN! ... ;-)
>
> First I verify the part #. I come up with the same number, same
> illustration, different illustration #. I wonder again why they
> changed the illustration #s when they went to microfilm. I agree that
> the drawing doesn't prove anything.
>
> I traipse down to the dungeon, grab the box labelled "800" and start
> going thru parts. Good time to separate the parts from the mouse
> droppings, but that's another story. Way way down in there, I find a
> bag of mirror gaskets. There's 1 of your black "half grommet" gaskets
> in there, but there are 4 of the translucent white ones. The bag is
> the bag they were put in at the distributor with the original label
> on it with the correct part #, marked quantity 10.
>
> I'm pretty sure that I have never bought any of the black kind. I
> think this one just came with a cheap mirror that I got elsewhere; I
> don't even know if it is a VW part. Since there are 4 of the flat
> washers, I'm convinced that they were the ones that came in the bag,
> but none of them have any real markings on them.
>
> While I can't really prove anything about which washer is the REAL
> right washer, I CAN say that the flat ones fit and work in type 3s
> just fine. My only complaint is that they crumble into dust in about
> 8 years, so I wish they were made of a better material.
>
>
> > My '74 Type 2 has a white nylon washer, but 'our' Type 3s had the
> > 'proper' one.  If dealers usually supplied the mirrors maybe they
> > didn't bother to order the proper seals, particularly if they are
> > not foolproof to fit?
>
> From here, I would say that if there were a mix-up, it went as high
> as VWoA, since I'm pretty sure I've bought these in various parts of
> the country, but perhaps only in quantity in a distributor marked bag
> on this occasion. I THINK I recall seeing both kinds hanging on the
> hooks behind the parts counter, though, so I believe the people there
> were giving me the part they thought was right. I know my 68 came
> with the flat washers when I picked it up new at the dealer.
>
> > So these join the intermittent wipers which were "never fitted to
> > Type 3s", and the "bleeding fronts first must be wrong because my
> > Bentley is in the cellar 3 floors down and I don't recall reading
> > that".  /<rantmode off> ;-)
>
On our "front to rear dual brake system", VW schools taught that you alway
bleed the front half of the master cylinder first. When they came with the
W/C VW's, it was the same thing, front half first. BUT, because they are a
diagonal dual circuit, you start with the rear wheel of the front half.


Russ Wolfe
russw@classicvw.org
http://www.classicvw.org/


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