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You're probably right Jim. 69. When I dropped my 66 subframe,it had 5 securing points and was simple to drop out of the body.Is the IRS sub the same AFAYK? Had not thought about getting the engine/trans- but if the early and late subs would match, I would consider doing an IRS swap.I'll be grabbing the gen/hous though! They will sell them separate. The fires were in Alpine, about 25mi. southeast(no danger to Vista) saw an awesome red sunset that night.(from all the smoke)Came close to the Indian gaming casino though! Chuck ------------------------------------------------------------------- Pitch in! Send your pledge of support! mailto:support@vwtype3.org