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Torque = force (perpendicular) x distance from rotation If the wrench is positioned horizontally, Torque(ft-lbs) = your weight (lbs) x distance out along the wrench or, distance out along the wrench = Torque / your weight If you want inches, multiply by 12. Put your foot at that spot and stand on the wrench. No jumping -- just stand. For removal, I've had good luck with those little cast iron plates that have the hex punchout for the nut and a square hole for the breaker bar. Put force on the breaker bar, hit the plate with a hammer. -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe