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If you need the later wiring diagrams, I am just about done scanning the Eberspacher manual. do these diagrams cover bn4 models with a relay instead of the 3 heavy duty wires going to the switch if so im kean to see them i see though your vw documents on your site dont work at the moment is this due to this impending. the guy who i got my new heater from said he has about 150 more all ex bundeswehr typ 181 bn4s they fit well in a t3 and the heat is lovely he charged 270dm for a more or less complete heater here is his addrese . Ulrich <Eckstein-Kuebel@t-online.de> http://www.eckstein-kuebel.de/ it may be of use to somebody out there. neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Too much? Digest! mailto:type3-d-request@vwtype3.org Subj=subscribe