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I've found the headers + single mufflers that Berg resells to be well-made. Er, well, the mufflers would last about 2 winters in heavily-salted Michigan before rusting out (despite my many attempts at different kinds of paint), but they seemed to be sturdy overall and included outboard support. Heh, getting proper sealing at the heater box always requires creativity due to mismatched size, as with most headers, but, other than that... -Greg ------------------------------------------------------------------- Unsubscribe? mailto:type3-request@vwtype3.org, Subject: unsubscribe