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thank you guys . what im after is finding out what no these changes in late 72 took place i do remeber a real good site with all the transmision codes and details on it but im buggered if i can find it again, anybody got any idear what im on about? im not sure i have today. neil verdon 66 sqr on irs pan best among equals rise to the top. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Search old messages on the Web! Visit http://www.vwtype3.org/list/